Marchionne says he will give America

"El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone) 01/17/2014 at 20:18 • Filed to: None

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...as many Alfas it can buy. From 2015. Maybe.
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Not chasing German size, market share. Now they need brand building campaign. Maybe Marchionne should put an Alfa badge on Ferrari's rumored Le Mans entery.

oldirtybootz > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/17/2014 at 20:29

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This is the first I've heard of the Giulia being based on the Ghibli rather than the CUS.

If they bring Alfa over here and make something I can afford I'd be very likely to buy one.

Makoyouidiot > oldirtybootz 01/17/2014 at 20:34

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I WILL buy one. But they have been promising for years, and I was denied the chance to buy my dream car, a Brera, so I will wait and see. Hurry up 2030 so I can just import one of those and be happy, cause these new ones are vaporware until proven otherwise.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > oldirtybootz 01/17/2014 at 20:36

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It won't be based on either, that's just C&D guessing, but rumors from Europe talk about a flexible, Alfa developed RWD platform, that will underpin the Giulia, the big Alfa sedan and the next-generation Ghibli and Chrysler 300.

472CID > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/17/2014 at 20:39

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As there ever been a comparison test between these two cars old or new? I'd love to see it.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/17/2014 at 20:42

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I'd rather see them come back to the US with cars that stand a chance of doing well.

Can you imagine if they'd come back with the 159? It's drop-dead gorgeous, but dynamically it just wasn't up to snuff. It would have been just as slow a seller as it was over here, and Alfa would have abandoned the States again.

With all that out of the way, I wish they'd hurry up :)

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > 472CID 01/17/2014 at 20:54

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Not as far as I know.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 01/17/2014 at 21:01

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It would've done well, like other so called premium mid sizer do. See the Buick Regal, Acura TSX and Lincoln MKZ. The point is that you don't quit if you don't have the desired success, you try again and again and again. Until you get it right.

oldirtybootz > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/17/2014 at 21:04

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And the SRT Barracuda as well if I'm not mistaken. I'd thought the Giulia was going to be a larger Giulietta, with a RWD sedan above them.

I'm starting to really think that Dodge will be phased out in favor of Alfa, Fiat, and Chrysler. The 200 is seemingly aimed more at the mainstream midsize segment than the entry lux crowd and there wont be a CUS Avenger. Any Dodge CUV or SUV is made redundant by Jeep and the Charger/Challenger don't sell. The Dart has been a disappointment sales wise so it's future is a bit murky. Their volume leader is now under its own brand.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/17/2014 at 21:05

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Maybe. I'm not so sure. It certainly wouldn't have pleased enthusiasts much.

Trying again and again is bloody expensive when it comes to exporting cars. Money Fiat Group can ill afford to squander. Much better to get something you're damn sure will succeed before committing.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > oldirtybootz 01/17/2014 at 21:11

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I wonder if someone would buy Lancia and Dodge, sold togheter.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 01/17/2014 at 21:18

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Success is never guaranteed, unless you're Mercedes, or BMW or Audi.

oldirtybootz > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/17/2014 at 21:42

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China probably.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > oldirtybootz 01/17/2014 at 21:54

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That would kill them for good. Chinese MG's are worse than BL ones ever been.

I was thinking VAG. Of corse that if the Chinese buy them, they can be smart enough to buy plants and R&D centers for the brands too. And then just stand back and watch.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/17/2014 at 22:27

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Heard it all before....I'll believe it when I see it. And trust me, I really want to see it.

oldirtybootz > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/17/2014 at 22:28

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I doubt anyone wants Lancia, and Dodge has little value without the Ram.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > oldirtybootz 01/17/2014 at 22:47

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The Chinese are like a teenager with daddy's credit card in a shopping mall, they want everything.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > 472CID 01/18/2014 at 06:36

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I could swear I read one comparing the 2000 GTV, a 2002Tii and a Dolomite Sprint. The Alfa had the sweetest engine and gearbox (although the Triumph's engine was just as good apparently. Not as sweet, but brutal in its power delivery) and the BMW the best chassis.

I can't for the life of me find it now.

Check out Trigger's Retro Road Tests though. There's absolutely tons of material, and I'm sure they've been compared elsewhere.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/18/2014 at 06:52

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I want to say your wrong but I can't.

On a positive slant, Audi's reached that level within recent years, and Jaguar's on its way to being there too.

Jobjoris > 472CID 01/18/2014 at 07:39

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The Dutch 'Octane' did a comparison between a modified Giulia 1.3 ti, the 2002 tii and a Volvo Amazon. It probably didn't end up in the English Edition. Which is probably the best car-magazine ever.

472CID > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 01/18/2014 at 09:39

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Sweet site thanks

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > 472CID 01/18/2014 at 19:00

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It's great isn't it?

If memory serves me right there's one comparing a 2002Tii, a 2000 GTV and an Audi 100 Coupe.